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marmi_and_tas



Joined: Mar 02, 2007
Posts: 178
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

Geocachers....Get with the Program!!!!
Caching yesterday with vnm747 and we were smacked in the face by caches that previous finders had barely bothered to rehide. All that time and effort by COs went by the wayside. Those "number" seekers. new and old, are just so yestersday.
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Raygar



Joined: Feb 10, 2007
Posts: 84

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

its bad, yes
seen more than a few lately not even closed properly
my swag missing
not impressed
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Magicman65



Joined: Nov 02, 2009
Posts: 109
Location: Victoria

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

marmi_and_tas wrote:
Geocachers....Get with the Program!!!!
Those "number" seekers. new and old, are just so yestersday.


That's why I do not enjoy the pill bottle trails, they are also saturating beautiful trails that should have very distinct caches on them for people to see, as well the trails should be shared with other cachers wanting to place quality caches in those areas. Lets not hog the trails!!! They do not belong to one person. End Rant!!!

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_canadianbacon_



Joined: Jan 05, 2004
Posts: 1154
Location: Surrey, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

Magicman65 wrote:
marmi_and_tas wrote:
Geocachers....Get with the Program!!!!
Those "number" seekers. new and old, are just so yestersday.


That's why I do not enjoy the pill bottle trails, they are also saturating beautiful trails that should have very distinct caches on them for people to see, as well the trails should be shared with other cachers wanting to place quality caches in those areas. Lets not hog the trails!!! They do not belong to one person. End Rant!!!

Almost 20,000 Finds in the Cache Shrink Series, dozens of logs every single day. It may not be your cup of tea, but there is many other parks, with variety of different caches to chose from that you can do. Burnaby Lake provides a different experience, and does not involve driving to parking-lots for 4 hours. To each their own.

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Teddy2k



Joined: Sep 12, 2008
Posts: 358
Location: Rosedale, BC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

Magicman65 wrote:
That's why I do not enjoy the pill bottle trails, they are also saturating beautiful trails that should have very distinct caches on them for people to see, as well the trails should be shared with other cachers wanting to place quality caches in those areas. Lets not hog the trails!!! They do not belong to one person. End Rant!!!

They may not be your thing but I can tell you first-hand as one of the organizers of the Trans Canada Trail Challenge series in Chilliwack (where, by the way, we used durable and watertight preform containers... not pill bottles) that 99% of the feedback that we have received has been amazingly positive. The first leg of the series has almost 90 finds, with lots of those people telling us that without the series, they never would have chosen to explore those trails. The series is even pulling some people out of the bigger cities so that they can explore the beautiful Chilliwack River valley.

Anyway, this post is getting off topic... back to the original topic please people.
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scruffster



Joined: Sep 29, 2004
Posts: 1207
Location: Burnaby

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

When I started geocaching the mantra was "Lift, look, replace" It was a very easy way to let people know that everything should be left in its proper place whether or not the cache is in that particular spot.

Back then, a cache could have been months old. With the exception of a rabbit trail, nature was more or less undisturbed. Ground zero was treated with kit gloves. This gave everyone the closest thing to the same geocaching experience whether they were the FTF or the 50th.

Over time, the "Lift, Look, Replace" mantra has fallen by the wayside. If I am not the FTF now, I have sadly come to expect that the moss will be turned up, the leaves will be ripped from every root cavity whether the cache is there or not and the cache will be most likely moved from its intended spot. This would have been unacceptable in 2004. Ground zero pulled apart would have been met with some rather scathing logs and/or posts on local forums. Culprits got the point quickly - if in fact they read the logs after they were at a cache. Also, the self policing aspect of geocaching would have had some gossip flying at events regarding such behavior.

When I see that the cache is obviously been moved or if ground zero is trashed, I often skim down the list of people who were at the cache before me (log book as well as geocaching.com). Over time, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out who's doing it -- especially if the caches are relatively new.

Having said that, I'm not the cache police. I'm not going to spend my time pointing fingers and outing people. They know who they are. I know who they are and anyone with a little bit of reasoning or deduction stills should know the same. It all comes out in the end. Geocaching isn't as anonymous as most people think.
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Adventure_Unlimited



Joined: Apr 29, 2011
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

I think for the most part, people do go to the effort to rehide caches reasonably well. It's a very small majority that rampages about, damages the area, and leaves the cache straight out in the open, even if it might be a noticeable one. I found quite a number of caches today, and I'd say about ninety percent of them were hidden well in what I assumed to be their original locations.
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marmi_and_tas



Joined: Mar 02, 2007
Posts: 178
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Shoddy Rehiding Reply with quote

Numbers cachers are getting on my nerves. They have no respect for the hide nor the hunt. They lie and they cheat and that's what they do. We basically know who they are, more or less. The Cachers doth protest too much methinks.
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